JD in Watchmen

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mersil
view post Posted on 19/6/2008, 23:11




Speriamo!
Cmq, visto che sono stata assente per un po', si sa qualcosa dell'uscita di questo film? E' già uscito da qualche parte?
 
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LaurieLo
view post Posted on 20/6/2008, 07:56





Bisogna aspettare il 2009, sigh..
 
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mersil
view post Posted on 20/6/2008, 20:09




Così tanto??? Che cosa brutta....
 
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kyra.wolf
view post Posted on 18/7/2008, 18:01




Oddio, sto morendo: finalmente nuove immagini del Comedian... andate su 'sto link, sul sito aggiornato di Watchmen.. l'intro avrà effetti devastanti sul vostro sistema endocrino - e neurologico pure...

Watchmen

Se non basta, ecco le nuove immagini: è troooppo figooo!!!!

Violento, lui..

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e purtroppo, QUEL costume lo usano!!

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Ma è o non è il migliore di tutti?

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OMG, vado a fare una doccia fredda... image
 
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kyra.wolf
view post Posted on 18/7/2008, 18:18




AAAAh, ecco il link al trailer (o, almeno, all'unico che mi funzionava..)!!

trailer
 
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mersil
view post Posted on 18/7/2008, 23:31




Ho visto il trailer in italiano e devo dire che questo film mi ispira parecchio e non solo per la presenza di JD!!!! Lo voglio vedere!!!
E poi JD in questo trailer è qualcosa di... wow non trovo le parole per descriverlo....
 
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LaurieLo
view post Posted on 21/7/2008, 12:37




si purtroppo la scena in cui JD ha quelcostume è troppo importante per la trama.. ce lo becchiamo!!
 
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Celebrity skin
view post Posted on 21/7/2008, 16:07




Non vedo l'ora di andare a vederlo!!!!!W JD!!!!!!!!!!! :WhiteHeart00:
Sorvoliamo sul costume....
 
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gregorylover
view post Posted on 22/7/2008, 20:39




fortissimo!
ho comprato il fumetto l altro ieri e vedere JD "disegnato" fà proprio figo ^_^
 
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mersil
view post Posted on 22/7/2008, 20:56




Scusate ma il fumetto di Watchmen dove si può comprare? In libreria lo trovo oppure devo cercarlo in un negozio di fumetti? Mi piacerebbe comprarlo!!!

Edit!

Ho fatto il giro delle librerie della mia città, me ne manca solo una, e tutte mi hanno detto che possono ordinarlo ma purtroppo se ne riparla a settembre perchè i fornitori sono in ferie.
Speriamo che la libreria che mi manca di visitare mi dica che ce l'ha già a disposizione altrimenti dovrò aspettare pazientemente il mio ritorno dalle ferie....



Edited by mersil - 28/7/2008, 00:13
 
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kyra.wolf
view post Posted on 30/7/2008, 19:50




Mersil, ma ma ma ma ma....
DEVI postare la foto di JD che hai messo nellla firma: m'è preso un colpo quando l'ho vista!! e in internet non la trovo!! :White02:
(è tratta dal trailer no?)
 
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mersil
view post Posted on 30/7/2008, 20:33




Yes. E' tratta dal trailer. L'ho trovata in giro per la rete. Ho dovuto ridurla per metterla nella firma....
Ogni volta che la vedo sbavo in maniera maniacale....

Appena riesco ti mando la versione originale tramite mp!!!
 
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kyra.wolf
view post Posted on 31/7/2008, 14:58




SEI UN TESORO :AngelStar12:
 
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mersil
view post Posted on 31/7/2008, 23:16




Fatto! Ti ho spedito un mp con la foto in questione!
Buon sbav! Io ormai ho allagato il pavimento a furia di guardare questa immagine....
 
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LaurieLo
view post Posted on 4/8/2008, 09:47





e noi niente foto? Postarla qui? :AngelStar09:


Intanto, un po' di stampa:


SET VISIT PREVIEW: WATCHMEN

I was crouched down in a jail cell and just five feet away from Nite Owl and the Silk Spectre were smashing the shit out of rioting inmates. They made their way down the prison corridor, punching, kicking and flipping any prisoners stupid enough to get in their path.

Behind the camera, Zack Snyder was smiling. So was I.

I had snuck away from the rest of the group to get a personal view of the action. We were in an old factory in Vancouver that had been turned into the prison where the vigilante Rorschach has been taken by the police; old, until recently retired crime fighting friends Nite Owl and the Spectre were breaking him out as the entire prison population was rising up, trying to get their hands on the guy who had put many of them behind bars in the first place.

If you've read the Watchmen comic you know the sequence well. While Nite Owl (real name: Dan Dreiberg, played by Patrick Wilson) and Silk Spectre (real name: Laurie Juspeczyk, played by Malin Ackerman) are fighting their way through the riot, Rorschach (real name: I won't spoil it if you haven't read the book, played by Jackie Earle Haley) is in his prison cell, being confronted by the Big Figure, a midget crime boss and Rorschach's one-time arch-enemy. Rorschach doesn't really need the help.

Before watching the dynamic duo, in full costume, battling their way through the thugs, I had been upstairs at Rorschach's cell, watching an unbelievably pumped Haley (during our interview with him he couldn't stop talking about his workout routine and his diet) ignoring the taunts of the Figure, played by Seinfeld vet Danny Woodburn. Things were about to get bloody in that cell. Wandering around the other prison cells on the second level, I was impressed by the incredible level of detail; there were magazines, comics and newspapers that had been shredded into confetti being thrown by angry inmates - all of it was period, coming from 1985 or earlier. And there were no superhero comics, since that genre doesn't exist in the Watchmen universe. There were a bunch of copies of Rom: Spaceknight, though. These are details that you will never see on a movie screen. Even on set I had to really get down into the debris to make sure that issue of Playboy was from 1984 (I was doing research, dammit!). But it's those details that will mark Snyder's adaptation of Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' masterpiece.

I was on the set of the film at the end of last year, in the chilly late fall. Usually when I visit a set it's a tightly guided tour - many things are kept off-limits from the press, as if we're going to go home and write about every moment in the movie. Watchmen was different; our level of access was just slightly below unfettered. We didn't get a copy of the script, and nobody would answer our questions about the end of the movie (although I saw the storyboards!), but otherwise this production was an open book. We toured all of the sets, including the impressive outdoor recreation of about three blocks of New York City in the 80s, we stood inside the still-under-construction Owlship, Nite Owl's version of the Batwing, we watched animatics of Dr. Manhattan, sixty feet tall, walking through the rice paddies of Vietnam and making Charlie blow up from the inside (scored to Flight of the Valkyries, perhaps a touch too on the nose for my taste. Let's hope that's changed in the final version). I had lunch in Dr. Manhattan's huge science fiction lab. I watched Patrick Wilson have his Nite Owl mask attached and saw the way that his demeanor changed between wearing street clothes and being in his big, rubber superhero suit. I watched another reporter mack on Malin Ackerman at craft services, not recognizing her with her Silk Spectre wig on. I stood inside the Gunga Diner and passed under the Rumrunner sign. I held Rorschach's grappling gun in my hand (it has heft) and I saw the Comedian's famous smiley face button.

But again, it's all about the detail. The production has a 'war room,' a huge conference room lined with concept art and storyboards. At one end of the room is a timeline, where real world history and Watchmen world history are overlapped. Understanding the history of this world, and where and how it differs from ours, is vital, and producer Debbie Snyder explained to us that this would really come into play during the opening credits sequence, which will walk viewers through this parallel world. I imagine that the opening credits is where we'll see the Warhol painting of the original Nite Owl - think of his famous Marilyn Monroe painting and you have it down pat. "It was really important to Zack to reference pop culture as much as possible," Debbie said. "But all the layers, the multi-layering, that’s so rich in the graphic novel, to get at that was really important."

That multi-layering is visible everywhere in the war room. The thematic elements that Moore worked into his script are here. It would be easy for Snyder and company to ignore all that stuff and to just try to make an exciting conspiracy movie with superheroes, but they understand what the real appeal of Watchmen is, and they're trying to stick with it. I visited the set of 300 and a phenomenon I saw there is here as well - there are copies of the graphic novel everywhere. When you have a question on this set, you go to the graphic novel first and then the script.

Of course this is a movie, not a graphic novel, so some things have to be changed. But Snyder makes each change with care, and says there's one question driving each and every change: 'What's the why of it?'

'If you filmed everything, it's a five hour movie,' said Zack. 'There's nothing wrong with that - I'd love a five hour movie. It's just not practical. The movie's job is not to replace the book. That's the most important thing. I hope people see the movie and go, 'Gosh, I have to buy Watchmen the graphic novel.''

I've been on a lot of film adaptations at this point, and plenty of adaptations that have big fan followings. Every time you go to a set like that, everyone makes a big show out of their reverence for the material, and it always sounds sort of fakey. There were some actors on the set of Watchmen, though, who had the tones of the converted when talking about the graphic novel. Jeffrey Dean Morgan (who I didn't know before the set visit, but after just sitting around a table with him for fifteen minutes revealed himself to be the perfect casting for The Comedian) talked about how he had read the book twenty times since getting the role. 'You guys know,' he said. 'Every time you read it you see something different. There's something new in there that catches your eye. It's an amazing piece of work.'

I won't lie and tell you that every member of the cast and the crew gave off that slightly worshipping vibe that Morgan had, but more often than not you'd run into people who got it. Who understood why this is special, why this isn't just another suits and special effects movie. That there was something bigger here.

Before Zack Snyder, Paul Greengrass was set to direct Watchmen. I read the script that he had and saw some of the designs he was working on; Greengrass' vision was a modern world, and the opening moments would smack you in the face with just how different things are by starting with a shot of the Twin Towers, still standing. Snyder has decided to go period, setting the film in the 1985 of the graphic novel, a decision I've wrestled with in my head. What's the point, I've wondered. Where's the relevance?

Snyder insists the relevance remains. If you're spoilerphobic, you may want to avoid the rest of this paragraph, by the way. The argument against the relevance of Watchmen is that we've seen our own world's version of that squid attack on New York, and we know that while a tragedy like that may bring the world together, it's for a limited amount of time. It's easy to piss that peace away. Exactly, Snyder counters. 'I think that's part of the awesome thing from the book - you have the book saying that a catastrophic event brings people together, but at the very, very end you have it teetering on the razor's edge. It could easily come apart. I think that's super relevant. Dr. Manhattan says, 'Nothing ever ends.' Alan Moore couldn't have known [how the post-9/11 world would have gone] but I think he assumed that was the nature of man. And it turns out he was right.'

That ending has been part of what keeps fans awake at night in terror (okay, spoilerphobes should sit out this paragraph as well). Would a major motion picture go through with an ending where millions of New Yorkers are killed? And even if they did, would they go with the ending that Moore wrote, where the 'bad guy' gets away with it? 'I've read every draft,' says Snyder. 'In every draft there's been... I don't know if they're happy endings, but they're more traditional endings. The bad guy gets it. [But I think] you have to keep him alive - and not in a sequel way. Look at the end of Superman Returns, Lex Luthor is on an island. I would have liked him to die!'

Sure, Snyder says, there was some resistance from the studio (resistance obviously tempered by 300's huge success), but he was able to talk them into seeing it his way. 'When we got down to actually talking about what was their issue [with the ending] we all came down to the fact that you don't gain anything by changing that part of it. It's a movie you should leave going 'Let's talk about this.' You should debate it, hopefully. Not 'Oh this was awesome, let's go get dinner.''

After watching the live action version of Nite Owl and Silk Spectre fighting I went behind the camera to see what Snyder had captured. The playback started, and the action looked bone-crunching (as it should - I'm pretty sure there was some serious contact being made with the stunt people's faces, and they were also slamming themselves damn hard into the concrete floor). As the Nite Owl on the screen started to do a kick, the speed suddenly changed - it became very slow and then as contact was made ramped up to accentuate the moment of impact. That was familiar - Snyder was keeping his style from 300. Walking through the sets and talking to everyone, I had wondered what the heck the movie would look like, but now the question was answered - this is a Zack Snyder film. The themes, the story, the characters, they all come from the original, but Zack is putting his stamp on this one as well.

That made me happy. I'm not sure that I'm completely sold on that Snyder style being used in this film, but I'm happy that he's making it his own movie. There's a danger when a filmmaker sticks too close to the source material, and it's that the adaptation has no life of its own. It can become a soulless shuffle through story points and character beats, which may be gratifying for the hardcore who only want to see what they recognize on screen, but as a movie on its own it's lacking. I think I'd be more concerned about the Snyder speed ramp if the film had also been changed to include more action scenes - the original graphic novel is not action-packed - but besides fleshing out a fight scene here or there (the prison riot fight is a panel or two in the comic), Snyder hasn't padded the story with punch ups and chases.

You're going to get your first glimpse of what Snyder has done this Friday, when the Watchmen trailer premieres in front of The Dark Knight. Hopefully I'll be able to bring you more from my Watchmen set visit in the weeks to come - I sat down and talked at length with Zack and Debbie Snyder, and talked to all of the main cast except for the enigmatic Billy Crudup. I'll also be talking to all these folks at Comic Con in a couple of weeks, so either way, the CHUD coverage of this movie is only getting started.

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